Podcast: "State Capture" in South Africa
![Visitors walk past a metal sculpture of former President Nelson Mandela in Port Elizabeth, South Africa, ahead of local government elections, July 29, 2016. Picture taken July 29, 2016.](http://cdn.cfr.org/sites/default/files/styles/slide_3_2/public/image/2018/02/South-Africa-Port-Elizabeth-Nelson-Mandela-Bay_3.webp)
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Crispian Olver, a former senior South African government official, long-time ANC activist, and author of the new book How to Steal a City: The Battle for Nelson Mandela Bay, joins me to discuss the pervasive corruption in South Africa known as "state capture" and the state of the African National Congress. Ahead of the 2016 local elections, Crispian Olver was tasked by the ANC and the central government to clean up the municipal administration in Port Elizabeth. What he uncovered was in many ways an illustration of what has been happening elsewhere in South Africa. The intervention he orchestrated, as well as the local election campaign in which he was deeply involved, offer insights on corruption and politics in South Africa.
You can listen to the podcast here.
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